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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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Enjoy the scuba, Coach!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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How much are you betting that one of the two “musicians” is him? They have to be original music and not covers, so it can’t be his rendition of “Life Without End At Last”. Also his originals about the governing body and good things/bad things happening in “the Truth” aren’t going to go over well.

This last year provided a lot of subject matter. Dysfunctional relationships and destructive behaviour can lead to great songs. Just listen to Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours.

Suggested song titles:

I Still Love You Baby (Despite Your Faults) - A Stephen Stills type balled in the vein of “Love the One You’re With”

Those Haircuts Won’t Pay For Themselves (this one needs to be a country western song)

Pa Tong Woman (inspired by The Doors LA Woman)

The Patreon Blues

Ladyboy Lucy - something out of the Britpop style - Think Oasis or Radiohead.

Event planners tend to be younger and attractive women who can get people in on their looks and charm alone. Not a 43 year old neckbeard who has very limited knowledge and fluency of the local language. If he hopes to ever be paid for this, then this is really not happening for him. If a club lets someone like Lloyd Evans in, it isn’t a club worth going to.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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On a side note Croatia just switched to euro
We can expect Lloyd to complain about it soon

He absolutely went batshit when Brexit passed. The £ went briefly into freefall and he related that he had accounts in Croatian Kuna and GBP. He was going off about how the British voters had cost him a lot of money and was thinking about taking the loss and converting his savings to a Euro account.

He even penned a a long and rambling blog chock full of logical fallacies about the need for a Brexit re-vote. In that article he even admitted that though he was eligible, he didn’t even vote!

Even people who were trying to calm him down with comments telling him to relax, the £ will rebound, he angrily blocked them.

Don’t mess with this man and his money. No one was brave enough to openly wonder why he had such a significant savings account to even be affected by the Brexit financial panic.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Did anyone notice that he forgot that he claimed he had a PR team? (didn't he?)

He actually only mentioned this once, and that was on his "I'm Back" video (roughly 4 minute mark) where he said this:

I'm also working on hiring a PR manager so I can focus on my work

Hiring lawyers is one thing, but a PR manager would have absolutely been driven insane by his online behaviour.

Not only that, he would also have to prove that actual damages were caused ... that weren't due to his own livestream.

He'd also have to open up his books and prove the monetary losses. This is why you don't litigate your case ONLINE. He actually did accuse Kim of spreading a specific lie - He flatly denied he was earning a 6 figure salary. What he did by making that accusation public was to provide the defence an opening to use their powers of discovery to rebut his claim and actually prove him to be the liar.

Maybe pr0ner's on to something. Perhaps the legal case he filed is his "PR". He then gets to use loaded language about defendants and the criminally prosecuted as his way of destroying the credibility of his detractors. For example, look at his reply to his own tweet when he announced the lawsuit on Twitter:

Now this is a clearcut example of the level of manipulation he relies upon to maintain his support. He immediately moves to label any support of the M7 as "taking the side of defendants in a criminal lawsuit". No debate - they are defendants so how dare you defend criminals? Notice how he used the words "defendants" and "criminal" in the same sentence even though one or the other could have easily sufficed. So instead of "letting the legal process do its thing", he's already slandering the people he is suing with the fact that he is suing them.

This is WT-style circular reasoning being employed. It's basically amounts to "These people I am suing have to be guilty because they are defendants in the same criminal lawsuit I initiated".

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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You know he'd try to start a gofundme or equivalent to have other people pay for his kids

Yes and it would be layered so much in Lloydspeak you’d have to read between the lines to know what it was really for. Something along the lines of how the “defamation” has made it impossible to purchase school clothes, pre-school tuition, birthday gifts, sweets, etc, he’s working hard with bringing WT down and his kids shouldn’t be made to suffer…

combined with his ability to move back to the UK plus his "vague" system of earning money would make it difficult to ensure payment.

If he gets nailed with child support/alimony, fleeing the country is definitely an option for him. Wait, I seem to remember him doing that before to avoid paying debts and to escape something else…

His wife is easily manipulated to take pity upon him. I can see her being guilted into accepting a lot less in support in an unofficial “divorce” arrangement just to keep him in the country so the girls have a father.

All Lloyd wants to do is run out the clock. Keep it in the system long enough that people forget about it and it looks like a victory.

It’s all about appearances to him. He’s getting off on calling the M7 defendants and uses that term and “criminally prosecuted” as a way to slander them and scare off critics at the same time. He’s deluded enough to think a conviction is likely, but failing that, I agree that having that case open for some time also works in his favour. But he’s going to really look like a fool when all this comes to naught. He’s thrown all his eggs in one basket and has no plan B other than getting his sought after conviction.

He obviously thought his case regardless of its merits would rally support to his side and he could be forgiven for thinking that way. It had always worked before. But I know for a fact that several supporters of his took issue with his lawsuit and left. There are even a few current supporters I could name who are/were open about how it was a bad idea. It’s going to go down as his second biggest blunder right between the livestream and the Andrew Gold interview.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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What he is doing is a disgrace really.

He’s abusing the legal system and making a mockery of it. All to fuel his ego and exact a measure of revenge. As a lawyer you are held to a high ethical standard and this kind of chicanery has to rankle you immensely. He really has no idea what he is talking about and is telling straight up lies and misdirection when rambling on about the legal issues in his case.

I don’t think they realised what kind of client they had. I understand that they are no longer representing him

I think you are right. Novosel hasn’t made a submission since last summer. It’s been JLE ever since. My feeling is they knew this was likely to fail for the reasons discussed above but at his insistence they filed the case anyway. As soon as the court denied the subpoena, as professionals they felt they had to withdraw since he was dead set on continuing the case and winning.

There is no way he’s going to hand over any money to his wife or for his kids if he can possibly get away with

Another reason for him to avoid the divorce altogether and it probably was the main reason why - he was about to get stuck with a good amount of child support/alimony for a housewife with two young children. Probably over a third of his income, not to mention giving her half of what he has in savings. So the “separation” works for him in that he can unilaterally set the amount himself and can lower it at his will, claiming financial difficulties related to the Patron drop. I reckon he pays enough for groceries, utilities and a small pittance of an allowance for his wife. Also he conceivably uses the fact she lives at her parents against paying her more. It goes back and forth. When he feels she’s slipping away towards a formal divorce he comes back and shames her about it, talking about taking his life and how he’d miss the girls.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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There is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that he has petitioned the court for the commencement HOWEVER until anyone is formally and legally served with a summons (or equivalent), no one is a defendant. There is currently nothing to defend.

This is essentially the same as making a police report, right? Croatian law allows a citizen to make this complaint directly to the court instead of the police. The court then makes a determination whether or not a crime occurred with evidence which makes it worth prosecuting, like the police normally do.

Lloyd going on about “defendants” is akin to your neighbour calling you a defendant because your dog shit on his lawn and he called the police and insisted on “pressing charges”. It’s a civil case not a criminal one and not even a good one at that.

Suppose this even went to the “commencement” phase. I know it won’t but let’s imagine it did. I’m sure the relevant embassies (US/UK/Aus) would be VERY interested that a municipal court in Sisak is criminally charging their nationals under Croatian law for “offences” that allegedly occurred under US/UK/Aus jurisdiction. I would imagine they’d take this up with their counterparts in the Croatian Foreign Ministry and wonder how a municipal court in Sisak has this kind of power.

This case is so weak and insane that I’d imagine the Croatian government would take measures to shut this case down and have it dismissed should a judge be foolish enough to serve parties overseas.

I believe there is a solid reason why Karlo Novosel’s office refused to answer emails and return phone calls and this is the reason.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I think he understood that the criminal suit (and the civil suits, should he file them) aren't going anywhere [.....] I do think that he expected it to work as a deterrent.

There is evidence for both. In his 10 June 2022 "Legal Update" on Facebook, a lawyer in California made this comment which is pretty much what everyone else has been saying about the futility of his lawsuit due to his attempt to hold foreign nationals to Croatian law. He was also replying to Lloyd's assertion that he had no burden of proof with regard to his allegations. Jabba the Hutt claimed that when he feels someone has defamed him, he gets to sue, and it is up to the defendant to prove otherwise, which is just jaw dropping legal quackery and stupidity.

Lloyd, well... doubled down on a losing hand which has pretty much been the case for almost a year now.

The last sentence is key to deciphering what his expectations are: "...in a worst case scenario I would be happy with a Croatian verdict in my favour irrespective of whether damages can be collected abroad. The judgment itself would be vindication enough"

So, at very least, he's expecting a guilty verdict with damages awarded, but being unable to collect the monetary award. Also, in his 4 September 2022 rant about not affording his daughter's haircut and pursuing Kim and others round the planet until he's 83 mentioned he does not see himself losing the case:

When he's going on and on about people being "criminally prosecuted" and calling them "criminal defendants", he is definitely using it as a deterrent against anyone else who is speaking about him and what he did. In his 10 June Facebook post, he says this:

I also want to make it clear that those who received warning letters but haven't been listed as defendants are not exempted from future civil action. Neither are those who have produced defamatory content but have yet to receive any letter.

This is a clear threat to people like Jake, Cappytan, JWBD, etc who were among the 12 to receive a letter but were left off the court case filed. It also threatens anyone "who have produced defamatory content but have yet to receive any letter".

Taken alongside his earlier comment about "anonymous Jehovahs-witness.com accounts", I can count myself and others here as among the threatened. Lloyd, I've really thought long and hard about this and my answer is still no.

Maybe he felt that, at this point, his patrons owed him their dollars and had to justify ending their support. As he has discovered... that's not how it works.

This is exactly how he thinks. He feels that his body of work from before the livestream should still be compensated. He even made the remark to Andrew Gold how he wished he could have given a rebuttal to every Patron who has left about how wrong they are to cut support and they fell victim to lies and defamation.

Lloyd is a mentally ill man who insists he's the sane one and to this day continues to make threats. When this case fails, he deserves all the shit he's going to get.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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They've never had a real, revenue generating business (any more than some kid doing yard work).

Yeah, I wouldn't read much into it. It was revealed that his father claimed a bad back, so that company may have been a tool for tax purposes to establish that he couldn't work and "lost" money every year. Remember Lloyd believes he's the smartest man in every room and he probably helped his father set it up. Lloyd's name was also on the incorporation paperwork of his former brother-in-law's lawn care company. He probably claimed he knew everything about tax law and legal issues and offered to do the same for him.

As for him being on the paperwork all this time, it's an inactive company so it wasn't high on the priority list. Fast forward to last spring where people were trying to find out what he has been up to, he resigned so as to not give people the idea that him and his father were in business together.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Is he trying to make his Patreons feel that they are participating in his “activism”?

Yes. It’s a marketing/PR gimmick from way back. Nods his head, pretending to care, always ending with how he thought it was a good idea and that he’ll ponder it. If enough people ask, he’ll grudgingly do the video. In reality he dreads those Patreon meetings almost as much as JW ones, looking at the clock and getting out of there ASAP. It’s why he always seems to cancel them. Imagine being such an empty shell of a person that you set a reminder on your calendar for a Zoom with Lloyd, thinking he is really seeking your advice on what his future videos should be about. It’s like paying good money for an all-access pass at a rock concert and thinking the band just loves hanging out with you.